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Post by zuludon on Jan 13, 2020 19:05:31 GMT
I'm considering moving a long time back burner project forward. I've always been fascinated by the doomed Jacobite Rebellion of 1745/46. Are there any other plastic Highlander figures for the period aside from the very dramatic Replicants ones? I think I am going to go with the generic 7 Years War AIP figures for British infantry as well as the Irish Wild Geese. The Replicants infantry figures are very nice, but I'm afraid buying them in the tens of numbers will break the bank. I can't think of any British Grenadiers in the pointy mitre hat, there are plenty with the later fur mitre. I'll probably go with the AIP AWI cavalry figures for both sides, as well as artillerymen. Any suggestions on suppliers of the small caliber cannon used? Compass Games is coming out with a new Commands & Colors game set during the Jacobite Rebellions later this year and I'd like to play it using 54mm figures as I now play the AWI version, four infantry, two cavalry and one gun to a unit.
Cheers! Nick Stern
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Post by rahway on Jan 13, 2020 23:55:06 GMT
Expeditionary Force will be dong the '45 but you would have to wait until 2021.
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Post by zuludon on Jan 14, 2020 0:02:10 GMT
Hmmm. It could be worth waiting. What's another year?
Thanks! Nick
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Post by leswhite on Jan 14, 2020 17:53:39 GMT
Nick, There is only one company that did plastic figures for the '45 , apart from Replicants , that would be CHARBENS they did 60mm British Grenadiers with Mitre hats. These were re-done a couple of years ago from original moulds but I don't think they are currently available. They would be useful for changing heads into tricornes for regular infantry. Another company did three poses for the Tourist industry in the UK in the 1960s, can't remember their name for the moment, they did one pose each of an Officer with Spontoon, Drummer and Grenadier Private standing with musket. These too are out of production. If you don't mind the differences in uniforms between the'45 and FIW/SYW then what about BARSZO 'Last of the Mohicans' British Infantry, LOD might re-issue them soon. I also expect that ExForce figures will be in FIW/SYW uniform too. For Highlanders you will have to search around or do some conversions. CHERILEA did a set of Highlanders in 60mm but they are out of production. So Replicants are you current option. If you don't mind a bit of conversion work how about using AIP Dervishes, especially the shield poses. These figures have lower bodies that would work to be changed into kilts and the bare feet would be accurate for highlanders. The shields would easily be changed into a 'Targe' type. The heads would need changed of course, need some bonnets and less hair ! It would be a lot of work especially painting all that tartan, or plaid as you guys call it in the colonies How many figures for each side would you need ?
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Post by auty on Jan 14, 2020 23:06:51 GMT
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Post by zuludon on Jan 14, 2020 23:51:53 GMT
Thank you, Les. A fount of knowledge, as always! I was able to find both the recast CHARBENS Grenadiers and (hopefully) some recast CHERILEA Highlanders. I never would have thought of those, so thank you very much.
Les, I am aiming for around forty figures per side so that I can play Falkirk Muir and Culloden using the Commands and Colors Tricorne Jacobite game that is coming out in Q3 2020. I use infantry units of four figures, cavalry units of two and one gun and a few artillerymen for each battery.
Auty, thanks for the photos. I've read that some people use the Prussians as Hessian mercenaries and I believe the Hessians marched against the Jacobites, but not at Culloden, which I'm focusing on.
Thanks, all, for the good suggestions and intel!
Nick Stern
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Post by rahway on Jan 14, 2020 23:53:02 GMT
Cavendish made the Officer, Drummer (separate drum), and Grenadier. They are said to be Stadden sculpts.
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Post by stuparkin on Jan 15, 2020 12:23:46 GMT
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Post by zuludon on Jan 15, 2020 21:16:33 GMT
Stu,
Thanks for the links. What lovely and clever conversions! Les and now Eric are my conversion heroes. I wish I had half their talent for being able to visualize how to make use of a suitable figure, not to mention their gluing and sculpting skills. As I am already feeling a little overwhelmed by the number of tartans I am going to have to paint, I think I will pass on conversions, at least for the time being. I ordered 40 of the Replicants charging Highlanders. I am sure that when I see them in the flesh, I will be inspired to add some converted figures for the sake of variety.
Thanks again, Nick
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Post by zuludon on Jan 23, 2020 15:47:29 GMT
I am now up to 65 Highlanders. Mostly the charging Culloden Replicants, but with a few of the Replicant ECW Highlanders and one set of the Charbens Highlanders for variety. Now I am wondering if I need to buy a similar number of mid 18th Century Government figures. I had been planning to use my large, painted, collection of AWI British, but the differences in uniform between the two periods will be very obvious in 54mm. One big plus for using the AWI figures is that it will allow me to get the games onto the game table six months earlier. How would you feel about playing The '45 using AWI redcoats?
I just realized that I have no problem using post 1812 British and French for the Peninsular War.
Apologies to those of you who have already read about my quandary on Facebook.
Nick Stern
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Post by zuludon on Jan 23, 2020 16:46:16 GMT
Sorry, I meant CHERILEA Highlanders. Either way, I do intend to paint up some Charbens British Grenadiers for the flank companies.
Nick
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Post by gonefishing on Jan 24, 2020 14:30:53 GMT
Hi Nick,
I've never been much of a uniform guy. If it looks broadly correct - not using, say, Napoleonic British to fight Zulus - I'm okay with it, and those who worry about "minor" things like the rifles being wrong leave me respectful (I respect their knowledge, I really do) but unmoved. So I say go for using those Rev War Brits for the '45! I'm not sure what the make-up is of your gaming buddies, but chances are that 90+% won't notice the anomaly anyway - red coats? check. tricorne hats? check. abundant powdered wigs in evidence? check. So in my book you're good to go! My two cents.
Hoping we get to see some pics whatever you decide.
Daryl
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Post by zuludon on Jan 24, 2020 16:04:55 GMT
Daryl,
I like the way you think!
Nick
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Post by zuludon on Feb 6, 2020 20:45:12 GMT
I have begun to paint my new collection of the Jacobite Rebellion of 1745/46 plastic figures. Most of the Highlanders are Replicants, but I found six of the Cherilea Jacobites at toysoldierhq.com/ (a great resource). The Highlanders are definitely Old School, but they have a certain charm. I made up the plaid, I think it's the MacStern clan. The English grenadier is a Charbens recast. Again, very Old School. I had to add a fair amount of painted on detail. Until LOD Enterprises re-releases the Barzso British infantry from the Last of the Mohicans range, I will use my AWI British for the line company figures. Considering I have 50 Highlander kilts to paint, it may take a while before I get this collection onto the game table.
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Post by tradgardmastre on Feb 7, 2020 10:12:34 GMT
A great start and I am sure they will look great on the wargaming table. They are both charming figures.
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